Kate Herron says she learned a script-writing trick from The Last of Us Showrunner Craig Mazin – and that she’s using it for her live-action adaptation of The Sims.

“It’s tricky to know what I can say, but I’m very indebted to Craig and Neil for giving me an opportunity to direct on it. Getting to do that was like a bucket list kind of moment,” Herron told Variety during an interview about directing The Last of Us season 2 episode 4. “I just hope I get better at my job. OK, actually, I’ve got a much better answer for you. I’ll answer it again. Craig writes the thoughts of the characters in the script. I love it, and I have 100% stolen that, and I’m now doing it in all the scripts I write. It’s such a good idea.”